Giles Gray

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  Are the witnesses really False prophets?

  by MrTheocratic in

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  when you read the following statements from the wt.

  organization... do they satisfy you?

  or better stated...... should you be satisfied by there answers?.

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  Giles Gray

  The best reply to the statment that JWs don't claim to be 'inspired prophets' is to point out to them that you don't have to claim to be inspired to be a false prophet. What false prophet was ever inspired anyway?

  It's a bit of a play on words but it works very well.

  On the point of the apostles having wrong ideas, there is no biblical proof that they shared their wrong ideas in their ministry, unlike JWs.

  The other point to bring out is that Jesus corrected the wrong ideas of the apostles right away. He didn't leave them to promote their wrong ideas for 70 years or more, excusing such errors to the fact they were imperfect men. If Jesus is directing them now, why is he not continuing to correct his followers like he did in Acts 1:6

  Both of these points contrast the truely appointed from the self appointed. The fact is that JWs are false prophets even by their own definition and standards.
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  Have you ever stopped and noticed anything about the world?

  by TheRevealerOfTruth in

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  this is one of the last things you are expected to do.

  in a society that creates you to go home and watch the kardashians.

  in an economic system where the currency trust is wavering on a private banking system.

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  Giles Gray

  punkofnice

  
  

  What are you trying to say, in a nutshell?

  "Nutcase more like '," as Basil Fawlty once said...
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  Have you ever stopped and noticed anything about the world?

  by TheRevealerOfTruth in

  1. watchtower
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  this is one of the last things you are expected to do.

  in a society that creates you to go home and watch the kardashians.

  in an economic system where the currency trust is wavering on a private banking system.

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  TROT

  What is time to you?

  It's about quarter to three where I am...
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  Have you ever stopped and noticed anything about the world?

  by TheRevealerOfTruth in

  1. watchtower
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  this is one of the last things you are expected to do.

  in a society that creates you to go home and watch the kardashians.

  in an economic system where the currency trust is wavering on a private banking system.

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  Giles Gray

  I do apologise.

  I was trying to be facetious.
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  Have you ever stopped and noticed anything about the world?

  by TheRevealerOfTruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is one of the last things you are expected to do.

  in a society that creates you to go home and watch the kardashians.

  in an economic system where the currency trust is wavering on a private banking system.

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  Giles Gray

  TROT

  Go prove to me that time exists

  Doesn't the fact that you would have to wait for the answer of whether time exists actually prove that time exists?
  
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  Convention Videos: Someone messed up royally

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  when i first saw the video, i was like, "wait... is that her... panties showing through the dress"?and it seems like it is so.turns out that if you look at the middle right of the video, there are some letters.

  it reads, "footage provided by pond5".if someone wants to purchase that video to confirm, you can purchase it here:http://depositphotos.com/63621499/stock-video-violinist-girl-walking-through-a.htmli think that this was a royal mess up because i doubt they would put footage of a sister in a skimpy, revealing dress.doesn't the gb approve this?this will probably go down as another of the "subliminal images"...if there are thongs in paradise... might not be so bad after all!.

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  So that's who's responsible for those crop circles... well I never...
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  Evidence for a Young Earth

  by Perry in

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  for additional information:.

  for additional information:.

  for additional information:.

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  Fencing

  I don't know that I've ever come across anyone as intellectually vacant and intentionally ignorant as Perry. It's astonishing to behold.
  

  You've met snowbird, right...?
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  JWs exist because...

  by oldskool in

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  one sentence answers only.. here's mine:.

  jws exist because people want an escape from the modern world and are willing to give up intellectual freedom to get it..

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  Because people don't honestly question or reason anywhere near as much as they ought to...
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  'Kingdom of God's birth in heaven in 1914' - first reference?

  by EdenOne in

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  can someone tell me please when was the first time that the wts published something to the effect that the kingdom of god was born in heavens in 1914 / jesus enthroned invisibly in 1914 ?

  i see an obscure reference to an article in a golden age magazine in 1930 but i can't find the actual quote,.

  not looking for quotes that talk about the "coming" or "presence" since 1914. i'm looking for actual mention that the kingdom started in heavens in 1914. when was the first ever time this was clearly said in the publications?

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  Giles Gray

  EdenOne

  I thought The Harp Of God came out with the first edition in 1921 (of which I am the proud owner of) and the second edition in 1928?
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  Confusing Opinions with Facts

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
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  in a discussion about the best flavour of ice cream everybody's opinion is equally valid.. in a discussion about the shape of the earth or the origin of species everybody's opinion is equally irrelevant.

  only objective facts and evidence matter.. confusing these two categories is a common feature of conversations in this forum.

  people deserve respect, errors do not..

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  Giles Gray

  Vidqun

  "Abiogenesis aside, I struggle with the concept: "From fish to man." Cognitive dissonance in a big way. It is f*#%ing impossible."

  I empathise with such sentiments. Have felt the same myself in the past. What changed my mind was looking into the fossil record of whales.

  The evidence suggests that whales and dolphins evolved from a group of mammals that lived on land known as the mesonychids.

  The fossil record can demonstrate the gradual evolution from land animal to sea creature.

  But the fact is that vestigial legs are found in every whale and dolphin.

  This was verified on a trip to the Natural History Museum where I took pictures of every example of modern day whale and dolphin.

  The facts are plain and simple. Fish with legs in them. No cognitive dissonance. Just substantiated evidence.

  I wouldn't have believed it unless I had seen it. Now I have seen the evidence. Surely that now must be factual?